More on operation “involuntary porn”

For those of you who liked the “isanybodydown.com” posts, there is an ongoing lawsuit against the owners of a site called “yougotposted.com.” Read, enjoy, crowdsource.

Like I said before, I have but two rules when it comes to porn:

Rule #1: The subjects must be adults
Rule #2: The subjects must be consenting adults.

Yougotposted.com, isanyoneup.net, isanybodydown.com, and all of their ilk most certainly violate Rule #2. None of these assholes get the subjects’ consent before publishing their photos, publishing their names, links to their facebook profiles, etc. I’m proud to be part of any case to bring them down for that.

18 Responses to More on operation “involuntary porn”

  1. [...] First Amendment attorney Marc Randazza provides a forensic demonstration on how a real "take down lawyer" handles an online scam artist who is impersonating a lawyer and extorting his victims for a fee. See also, Marc's follow-up posts: isanybodydown.com responds! and More on operation "involuntary porn". [...]

  2. [...] extorting his victims for a fee. See also, Marc's follow-up posts: isanybodydown.com responds! , More on operation "involuntary porn" and Still more on isanybodydown.com I also highly recommend Ken @ Popehat's companion post: "The [...]

  3. Rogier says:

    I’ll play devil’s advocate.

    First, here’s what I *do* get: The people behind that website are deeply unpleasant cretins. Fuck ‘em. Then again, deeply unpleasant cretins are no doubt rife in any industry, porn being no exception.

    Here’s what I *don’t* get: Rule #2 is surely not as clearcut as you make it out to be. Presumably, the subjects of the photos and videos were in fact consenting adults *when the images were captured.*

    No doubt you’ve heard of “casting couch” or “audition” porn. It seems to me that quite a few of the young ladies appearing in those fine cinematic efforts were talked into taking their clothes off and a whole lot more, after they were assured that the recording was just for internal purposes — an audition tape to be shared with “film producers.” They did not consent (I think) to having the recording posted for all the world to see. Yet this is a porn genre unto itself, and I doubt that most producers and website owners in the porn industry have a problem with it. Am I wrong?

    Will you then also go after fairly mainstream porn sites like backroomf— you know what, I can e-mail you some URLs if you’d like, I have no desire to promote their wares here.

    I agree that the dickheads behind isanybodydown are a special class of nasty on account of their fake-lawyer takedowns-for-money scam. No quibble there. I’m only focusing on your two rules — the second one of which you don’t seem to apply with exemplary consistency.

    Thanks.

    • If you consent to your photo being on a porn site, then it is consent. If you sign a model release, that is consent. You’re too dumb to read it? Well, that’s sorta too bad for you. And… I can assure you that a lot of what you see online that appears to be “involuntary” is not really so… and Johnny Depp isn’t really a pirate either.

    • “Yet this is a porn genre unto itself, and I doubt that most producers and website owners in the porn industry have a problem with it. Am I wrong?”

      You are incorrect.

      Legitimate porn producers are very serious about 2257 regulations. You NEED signed consent from all participants for your porn if you don’t want to get thrown in jail.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Protection_and_Obscenity_Enforcement_Act

      Joe Francis (Girls Gone Wild) got burned for $2M because of this.

      • Rogier says:

        2257 regulations have to do with the age of the performers, no? The ages of the girls who show up for a calendar audition or a job interview and get talked into blowjobs and more are not under contention. Not part of my question / argument.

        Yes, there are lots of play-acted videos in this genre (the scenario is as old as “horny home-alone 18-year-old cheerleader orders pizza, fucks the delivery guy”), but also completely believable ones that I have little doubt are in fact real.

        It perhaps all goes to the nature of consent (and “consenting adults”). Since the producers of the “calendar girl job audition” recordings are crafty enough to talk the girls into having sex — on camera, no less — it’s highly likely that they can also procure signed consent forms, possibly under false pretenses (the girls may be told they’re signing a job application). I agree with Marc’s “Too dumb to read it, sorta too bad for you,” I think, but it doesn’t change the fact that (a subset of) those young women will be horrified to find themselves exposed online — just like a lot of the subjects on isanybodydown.

    • Austin says:

      In response to your comments on the women posted on these sites being consenting, I can assure you they are not. That is, at least, in the case of isanybodydown. I myself received notice.from a complete stranger that nude photos and personal info of mine was up on the site.
      Those photos were all taken by me and emailed to someone who was posing as another woman. I never said, ‘Hey! It’s.cool to through these up on the internet!! And while you’re at it, you should probably give everyone my phone number and let them harass me daily!’
      My point is simple. The site is not of consenting women. And the many, many women who are on the site are being harassed and bullied daily.
      I never asked for that.

      Thank you to all for paying attention to this matter, it is important. Non-consensual porn is never okay.

  4. Trebor says:

    Rogier. I could well be wrong, but I believe (most of) those sorts of sites will actually have a disclaimer stating that everything is scripted / role-play. i.e. everyone involved knows that the film will be released, and the ‘innocent / naive / etc.’ girl isn’t being tricked at all.

  5. Rogier says:

    Trebor: There are those kinds of videos, for sure, and we all recognize them from a mile away. They’re not the ones I’m talking about.

  6. [...] Marc documented in a series of posts, "Is Anybody Down?" had a sleazy relationship with "Takedown Laywer" "David Blade III," [...]

  7. I have a third rule: No former food or former people.

  8. [...] porn: IsAnybodyDown is an “involuntary porn” or “revenge porn” site, posting nude photos, names, phone numbers, hometowns, [...]

  9. Jim says:

    First of all, all legal porn in the us require consent (2257). Casting calls, auditions, etc all sign the same piece of paper consenting all rights to the media to the producer. I don’t care how naive they act in the video… It’s fake. Idc if its named New York Crack Whores.

    Anyways, I’d bet 98% of YGP’s content doesn’t have a signed consent form at the day of the photos or even a photograph of the person with a legal form of photo I.D..

    • true, but do you think the fucking cunts at the DOJ will enforce 2257 against involuntary porn sites? NEVER. That’s reserved for porn sites that make money with willing consenting adults as participants.

  10. [...] YouGotPosted.com is a cheap knock-off of Moore’s accidental ingenuity.  ”YouGotPosted” used Moore-inspired domain names like IsAnyoneUp.net (PDF) to drive traffic to their lurching creations.  Very creative, these guys.  This infringement of Moore’s trademark led to a lawsuit (PDF) from the trademark’s new holder Bullyville, represented by Marc Randazza. [...]

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