Sandra Fluke is not a “slut” (just a liar)

Apparently, Rush Limbaugh found Sandra Fluke’s bullshit slinging on Capitol Hill to be worthy of disrespect. (so did I) He called her a slut (I did not), which of course, brought about the shrill screeching of harpies.

Nancy Pelosi had this to say:

“When Sandra Fluke testified before the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee after Republicans attempted to silence, she courageously spoke truth to power. As a result, today, she has been subject to attacks that are outside the circle of civilized discussion and that unmask the strong disrespect for women held by some in this country. We call upon the Republican leaders in the House to condemn these vicious attacks on Ms. Fluke, which are in response to her testimony to the Congress. Democrats will always stand up for women’s health and women’s voices.”

Of course, if Sandra Fluke was speaking “truth to power,” then she wouldn’t have lied about needing $1,000 a year for birth control. If she was telling the truth, then that means she’s getting banged more than 1,000 times a year, if that’s for condoms. (Georgetown’s health insurance covers birth control for non birth control purposes) I’d say that would qualify her as a “slut” if true and we’re using the common usage of that term, but it more likely qualifies her as a liar (and not a slut) — so the “truth to power” shit doesn’t fly. (Update: For more on this, check out this Reason Article).

For the record, I don’t think she’s a slut — I think she lied about how much she needs for contraception — and further for the record, I have nothing against sluts. Lying assed bitches, on the other hand, I don’t think too highly of. (and she may not even be bitchy — but it fits the song).

Fluke said:

“No woman deserves to be disrespected in this manner. This language is an attack on all women, and has been used throughout history to silence our voices.”

See what she did there? She’s using the feminist law professors play book. She puts her bunk out there and she gets criticized for it. Where does she run for shelter? “The bad boys used bad words.” She puts on the victorian clutching pearls and screeches that she’s being attacked because she is a woman. If she can turn it from an attack on her into an attack on all women, then Rush loses.

This just proves that she’s even dumber than she first seemed. Honestly, when you have a target as soft as Rush, why bring the idiot gun? If any woman I respected ever got called a “slut” by Rush Limbaugh, we’d all have a hell of a laugh about it. “You mean that fat fuck pill head hypocrite?” A nice response would have been “as we all know, a whore fucks everybody and a slut fucks everybody but YOU.” I dunno, something trite and cliche like that, to show that Rush Limbaugh’s idiocy rolls off your back.

No, instead she played the “if you criticize me, you hate all women” card. The only one dumber than her is the worthless law professor who told her to say that. (and I guarantee you that one did).

Here’s where Rush went wrong: Why criticize a woman for being a slut? Sluts are awesome. We here at the Legal Satyricon embrace all sluts (or whores, as it were) and welcome them to practice their craft with impunity. Sandra Fluke is no slut. For christ sakes, look at her! No slut dresses like that. A slut would know how to get a guy to pay for her birth control. A slut would know how to talk to men — who ultimately are the ones she needs to convince. No, this is no slut. This is just an overprivileged liar who got coached by other overprivileged liars. In turn, those overprivileged liars didn’t do a good job of preparing her for her presentation. Thats what happens when you prepare by only speaking to your victim studies classes — everyone pats you on the back and nods their heads. Then, one day, you have to deal with real people who will view what you say with a critical eye. Then you get slammed.

The really sad part is that Fluke, by lying, really did a disservice to a noble cause. Insurance companies and employers should not be able to say they object to certain medical expenses on “moral” grounds. (I’d say a private school ought to be able to, but that’s another discussion). The position she was out there to support is the right one. But, she decided to lie and to over dramatize the situation. In doing so, she made herself look stupid, and she did a grave disservice to her cause. Now, by trying to turn it into a feminist issue about naughty language, she’s doing even more damage. She should just shut the fuck up and let a woman who knows what she’s doing take her place.

Sandra Fluke isn’t being attacked by Rush Limbaugh (or anyone else) because she’s a woman. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t want to silence Ann Coulter, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, or (until recently) Olympia Snowe. She’s being attacked because she’s an idiot and a liar.

If she were just a slut, the whole world would love her. Nobody really minds a slut. Nobody, not Rush Limbaugh and not me, and not anyone sensible, suffer lyin’ assed bitches lightly.

55 Responses to Sandra Fluke is not a “slut” (just a liar)

  1. Anonymous says:

    You may not have called her a slut, but I did, in the comments when you originally posted about this article. I called her a “cheap slut” if I recall correctly. Despite Limbaugh’s objections, I stand my by statement.

  2. Justin T. says:

    I realize you are being hyperbolic, but there are multiple other reasons a woman would be prescribed birth control that have nothing to do with getting fucked. Condoms don’t help with regulating the menstrual cycle, for example, so she could be buying 50 condoms a day and her desire for hormonal birth control would still be legitimate. I’m not saying her testimony about the cost was credibke, but saying she should just buy condoms as if there’s only one reason for birth control is just naive.

    • Rogier says:

      “Saying she should just buy condoms as if there’s only one reason for birth control is just naive.”

      Marc addressed the pill too, even providing a link to a Planned Parenthood webpage that lists the cost of the pill as $15-$50 a month. So that still makes Ms. Fluke a deceitful little sack of shit.

    • I agree with you — but (as I recall the program ‘s parameters) at GULC, if you need birth control pills for something other than birth control, then the plan covers them. She’s not talking about needing birth control to take care of other health issues — she’s talking about birth control. (and, for that matter, she’s still lying on the cost)

      • Zero says:

        Actually, her testimony centered on the fact that a friend of hers had ovarian cysts, for which the preferred treatment of doctors is to use hormonal birth control pills which is not covered by GULC’s health insurance.

        The points central to her testimony was the cost and the other health reasons where birth control is necessary but they are unable to afford due to the cost and GULC’s insurance not covering it.

        Also, I keep seeing people say “how often must she be getting fucked to need that much birth control?” Do you not know how birth control works? It’s a pill that is taken every day, regardless whether or not the woman is going to have sex or not. She could be having absolutely no sex whatsoever, or once a month or 100 times a month, it doesn’t change the cost of birth control. Which can vary from place to place, in some areas birth control can cost upwards of $70 – $80 a month which is damn near $1k/yr.

        • If she wants birth control, condoms are pretty damn effective. She’s not entitled to the birth control of her choice. She can use condoms at less than a buck each.

          Birth control pills for $80 a month? Where would that be? I provided a link that shows you can get it much cheaper.

          Further, I simply call bullshit on anyone who can scrounge up $20,000 a year for law school, but can’t scrape up even $20 a week for birth control pills (presuming that the $80 a month figure is accurate)

          With respect to your point about birth control medication for other purposes, look here. I’ll quote it for you:

          (Note: Although birth control is not covered, medications used for birth control that are required to treat other medical conditions are covered. Your provider may submit requests for such coverage in the form of a “Prescription Override” by faxing the details of the diagnosis and treatment to Gallagher Koster, fax #: 617-479-0860.)(emphasis added)

          Just as I recalled.

          • Zero says:

            http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/02/19/high-costs-birth-control

            The link you provide only is an example of a small area where people can get it for that cheap. It is not representative of everywhere.

            Also, condoms can break or otherwise fail, and, in addition, do not help to regulate the menstrual cycle or provide any of the other health benefits that birth control does.

            As far as being able to pay for law school but not birth control: she’s on a public scholarship and loans and is already paying for health insurance scrounging up another $500/$800/$1k per year isn’t exactly easy. She isn’t exactly paying for school out of pocket.

            • Birth control pills for $4 per month for some kinds, $9 per month for others. here

              Condoms can break? Ok, so use $9 a month pills AND condoms, you’re still nowhere near $1,000.

              And, yet again, if you need birth control pills for reasons other than birth control (to regulate the menstrual cycle, for example) her health insurance at Georgetown DOES cover that.

              look here. I’ll quote it for you:

              (Note: Although birth control is not covered, medications used for birth control that are required to treat other medical conditions are covered. Your provider may submit requests for such coverage in the form of a “Prescription Override” by faxing the details of the diagnosis and treatment to Gallagher Koster, fax #: 617-479-0860.)(emphasis added)

  3. John says:

    Well, if her choice of birth control is abortion, it could easily reach $1K per year. Even if she chose ‘Plan B’, at $50 a pop, she’d only have to screw 20 times a year to reach $1K. Is that slutty?

  4. Clint says:

    Planned Parenthood doesn’t just give birth control to anyone who asks for it, people.

  5. DHMCarver says:

    The Legal Satyricon: “Occasionally irreverent thoughts on law, liberty, tech, and politics”. And then there is the recent descent into misogyny. I realize you went quite for a while, and were looking for new writers. There has been a remarkable turn towards the nasty of late. You used to be a fun, biting read, now… well, it is hard to know what to say. But I am voting with my bookmarks, and taking you off. Enjoy your hate-fest.

    • Robert C says:

      Yeah, I’m out. I just don’t understand where all of this vitriol is coming from. If you were just gout after her for the policy position that birth control should be covered by all policies, maybe we could have a discussion, but you seem to be deliberately misinterpreting her words. I expected more.

      You say that she isn’t entitled to the birth control of her choice. Okay, that’s fair. But she’s clearly talking about something pike the pill, so when you call her a liar because condoms are cheaper it just makes you look petty and small.

      When you do talk about the pill, you cite one source that isn’t available to all. You have no evidence that what she paid was any different from what she said.

      I understand that you have an ideological difference with this woman, but that doesn’t justify these ad hominem attacks, in my opinion.

      • Robert C says:

        Also, when I was in law school, I knew people knee deep in debt and on pretty stark budgets. I won’t say that they couldn’t afford an extra 1k a year expense, but I think it’s fair to say that it would have been burdensome.

        • That’s $2.73 per day. She could return 55 empty bottles and cans per day, or panhandle for a few minutes outside a subway station and scrounge that up. Stand at a subway station or an intersection with a cardboard sign that says “Need $2.73 for birth control today” and she’d have it in 10 minutes.

          I’m just sayin’ — if you have the wherewithal to go to 4 years of college, take the LSAT, then get through 3 years of law school, and then take BarBri and the bar exam, you should have the wherewithal to scrounge up an extra $83 every month — if your birth control method actually does cost that much.

          Oh, look here — looks like NINE bucks a month. http://www.reproductiveaccess.org/contraception/lowcost_pills.htm

          • Robert C says:

            I think we can all agree that it is possible to get birth control that costs less that $1k a year. But if you’re going to call her a liar, you need to show that $1k per year is not a realistic price. I decided to look at what a name brand pill cost, instead of the cheapest, and lo and behold, the first one I checked (Yaz) ranges from $80-100 a year.

      • I dont disagree with her policy position though.

        She’s lying about the cost of birth control. If she said that “her friend” needs it to treat ovarian cysts, she’s lying about that too (since GULC’s insurance covers that).

        I don’t have an ideological difference with her views on birth control or healthcare coverage. I call out bullshit when I see it. The fact that she doubled down and tried to make it a “the mean boys use mean words” issue puts her on my full shit list.

        • artistsh says:

          No. She’s NOT lying. Birth control pills are NOT all the same. They have different hormonal levels and need to be prescribed by a doctor for that reason. They are also not used ONLY for pregnancy prevention. It’s medication, moron. It affects hormone levels in your system. The endocrine system is a bit more complex than putting a cover over your projectile. At least try to get SOME facts into your statements. Some women’s systems can’t handle certain dosages of the pill, there are side effects issues, etc. We’re not talking about one size, fits all like condoms. If you’re going to call out bullshit, please consider what a pile of CRAP your post is.

          • It’s medication, moron.

            Yes, and when prescribed for reasons that are not against Catholic doctrine, they make an exception. Please try and pay attention to the entire conversation, not just jump in at the end and expect everyone to review what’s already been said for you.

        • dyfh says:

          Why would you think she was lying about her friend’s cysts? She explicitly acknowledges in her testimony that the friend’s “prescription is technically covered by Georgetown insurance because it’s not intended to prevent pregnancy,” but says that in practice it didn’t turn out that way: “she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription, despite verification of her illness from her doctor. Her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted the birth control to prevent pregnancy. She’s gay, so clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy. After months of paying over $100 out of pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore and had to stop taking it.” Her cysts then worsened, resulting in the loss of an ovary.

          • I don’t buy it. I simply call bullshit. 1) Georgetown never denied anyone I knew. But, I understand that anecdotes don’t equal data. 2) I don’t believe that anyone at Georgetown can’t scrounge up $100 a month to save an ovary. No way. I just do not believe it.

            • dyfh says:

              Ah. Seems to me that “I just don’t buy it” is quite different than a blanket assertion that she’s lying. I imagine that if you’d called this article, “Sandra Fluke is not a ‘slut’ but I just don’t buy her story,” you wouldn’t be getting quite the traffic you’re getting.

              It’s also disingenuous to frame the issue as whether she could choose to spend “$100 a month to save an ovary.” Many women live with PCOS for years with much less severe symptoms and without losing an ovary, and it’s my understanding that that kind of complication is relatively rare; for financial reasons, she had to take a risk that she would be one of the lucky ones. She wasn’t.

            • Fishbone didn’t write a song called “don’t buy her story.”

  6. Steve Lear says:

    Re: marcorandazza
    Further, I simply call bullshit on anyone who can scrounge up $20,000 a year for law school, but can’t scrape up even $20 a week for birth control pills…

    I believe Ms. Fluke stated that she is receiving “public interest scholarships” and as such, she would not be required to “scrounge” up $20k a year for law school. I have not formally researched public interest scholarships however, based upon Ms. Fluke’s comments, I would hazard a guess and say they do not pay for contraception.

    In addition, re: John
    …if her choice of birth control is abortion, it could easily reach $1K per year. Even if she chose ‘Plan B’, at $50 a pop, she’d only have to screw 20 times a year to reach $1K. Is that slutty?

    Twenty abortions a year? That was sarcasm, correct?

    • I had the figure wrong.

      Georgetown costs $23,432.50 per semester. $46,865 per year.

      If she’s a PILS student (Public Interest Law Scholarship) then she pays 33% off. $30,930.90 per year. http://www.law.georgetown.edu/finaff/studaccts/tuition.html

      So, if she can scrounge up $30,930 per year, then she can scrounge up $20 a week to have protected sex. The fact is, she’s lying if she says that she and her peers “can’t afford it.” They can afford it. They have a political agenda (which I share) and they are relying on lies to support it.

    • John says:

      I said an abortion could easily exceed the $1 threshold. The ‘sex 20 times a year’ was in reference to the $50 cost of Plan B.

  7. SMH says:

    Good job defending your position, marcorandazza. I’m sold; she’s a lying bitch

    • artistsh says:

      You really should consider what bullshit marcorandazza is posting before signing on with him.

  8. Jmmm says:

    How is she the dumb one? It sounds like she managed to get her point across and make Rush look like a total idiot all at once.

  9. artistsh says:

    What a bunch of assholes commenting here – for the most part. Birth control pills are used for things other than preventing pregnancy but it doesn’t look like anyone here has the intelligence to look that up (other than one or two people). Narrow-minded mysoginists who think they know everything (when they clearly don’t) and who have such low regard for women. A law student is no dummy. And a lot of students are in school on scholarships, grants, or loans – NOT wealthy or with extra money to spend.

    She’s not SAYING she wants the government to pay for her to have sex, she’s saying it should be covered under her insurance as medication whether for birth control or for other medical issues – the same way it covers Viagra or medication for men with erectile dysfunction. The only reason men need that is to be able to have sex. What’s the equivalent word for single men who want to have sex? Disgusting sexist pigs?

    • Here, stupid: Her GULC insurance DOES cover birth control pills if prescribed for other medical conditions. (source.

      Oh, Snap!

      Want another one?

      You say “he’s saying it should be covered under her insurance as medication whether for birth control or for other medical issues – the same way it covers Viagra or medication for men with erectile dysfunction.”

      Well look here: GULC insurance Her insurance doesn’t cover ED medication either.

      Awww! Stupid shit gets TWO black eyes.

      And I don’t wanna hear ANYONE who goes to fucking $45,000 a year Georgetown whine that they can’t afford birth control. Further, she was from New York — they have two state law schools there where she could have paid less than half that in tuition, and voila! She could have afforded her $1,000 a year birth control until her vagina turned to dust.

      Finally, this worthless dipshit has admitted in public interviews that she was fully aware of Georgetown’s health insurance policy when she went there, so she can shove her phony outrage. This is a manufactured “incident” .

      • artistsh says:

        She’s speaking for people other than just herself, stupid. And she did talk about cases where the medication WAS NOT approved for treatment for a condition other than pregnancy prevention.
        And nothing she said justified the personal insults and attacks from Limbaugh or Neanderthals like you. Her “phony outrage?” Call your sisters or your girlfriends sluts and prostitutes for having sex and using birth control – and then tell them that if their insurance covers it, they should post videos online so everyone can watch. See what their reaction is – and then say her outrage is phony.

        • It is phony. She’s delighted that Rush said she was a “slut” rather than just doing the math. Had Rush simply done the math and shown that Fluke is full of shit, then she’d be discredited. Since he used nasty words, she gets to dwell on the nasty words and claim victim status — which is what womens’ studies programs are all about. Lets make sure that we can claim victimhood, then shut down any debate about the facts.

  10. I would like to see her break down her numbers. I’m not going to pretend to know what it really does cost until I see what she’s claiming. I cry foul on the claim, but it would be nice to see where she pulled this number from.

  11. mm says:

    The only person who truly used and abused this woman was Pelosi by dragging her up there for pure drama.

  12. Chuck Rudd says:

    when we accept the premise that the government can mandate who buys health insurance and what employers cover in their plans, this is what we get. birth control is just the KY Jelly for the guv to fuck us in the ass on the way to nationalized health care.

  13. Here we have a voice of reason…..YOU said just what I said as soon as I saw her speaking on the news….only I didn’t use all the 4 letter words…but I’m an old woman who doesn’t use that language all that often…but you made the same point. AND–in the liberal world, there IS no such word as SLUT–because that signifies someone who is looked down upon for their sexual life….Liberals are all about NO morals..morals would equate with a belief in a higher power…the dreaded G word…for them sex can be and should be…anytime, anywhere, anyhow…as long as it doesn’t “hurt” anyone else…so how, then, can there be such a thing as a slut???

    • Allison says:

      Lots of men here, I notice, with strong opinions about a product they don’t consume – and what that product costs. Hmm. YOU HAVE NO IDEA, GUYS. Some of them ARE, in fact, $80/month out of pocket, or more. And you have to pay Lots of men here, I notice, with strong opinions about a product they don’t consume – and what that product costs. Hmm. YOU HAVE NO IDEA, GUYS. Some of them ARE, in fact, $80/month out of pocket, or more. Nuvaring, for example. And you have to pay for an ob-gyn visit to get it prescribed, I don’t know if her insurance would cover that or not.

      “She’s not entitled to the birth control of her choice.”
      Why isn’t she? There are many different kinds of birth control, at many dosages, and hormonal birth control does have side effects, some of which are uncommon but serious. So what if her doctor recommends $80/month birth control?

      And Marco, what about her friend – yes, technically she’s covered but clearly the “prescription override” policy is a hurdle. How long does that take to go through, and does it ever fail? What recourse would she have if her request was denied?

      And feminist issue or not, calling people names is not acceptable political discourse. for an ob-gyn visit to get it prescribed, I don’t know if her insurance would cover that or not.

      “She’s not entitled to the birth control of her choice.”
      Why isn’t she? There are many different kinds of birth control, at many dosages. Hormonal birth control has side effects, some of which are uncommon but dangerous.

      • 1. The “entitlement” issue:

        I’m a pretty socialist-minded guy, so I believe that everyone is entitled to food, shelter, and health care. That said, you are not entitled to lobster and a filet with foie gras. You’re not entitled to a mansion. And, you’re not entitled to cosmetic surgery, viagra, or the birth control you necessarily prefer. If you can’t afford lobster, you have tilapia and your needs are met.

        2. Her “friend,” is covered. I never knew anyone at GULC who had a hard time getting a prescription override. I know that my anecdote is not the same as data, but in my time there, I never heard of anyone who couldn’t get the override.

        Finally, I just don’t see why she’s entitled to *anything* that is inconsistent with Catholic doctrine at Georgetown. She’s been quoted as saying that she shouldn’t have to compromise her education choice in order to get decent health care. I call bullshit. There are about 200 law schools. Georgetown is not, by any measure, the best of them. George Washington, right down the street, is in a cooler neighborhood and is only a slight hair behind GULC in the rankings. Let this be a market force. If more talented women refuse to go to GULC because of its medieval views, then perhaps George Washington will outpace it in the rankings.

        • Allison says:

          no, what if her *doctor* recommends it. Not her preference, what her doctor thinks is safest. They (I mean the medication) are not 100% interchangeable.
          Granted I am asking it as a hypothetical. How about if, in the specific dosage/hormone combo that is correct for her, all but one available (and expensive) choice has an ingredient she is allergic to? Totally unlikely, right, but what if?

        • Allison,

          I don’t understand why you refuse to see this — I posted it numerous times. From the GULC insurance policy:

          “Although birth control is not covered, medications used for birth control that are required to treat other medical conditions are covered.” (Source)

          • Robert C says:

            That doesn’t address at all what Allison was saying. She’s talking about a birth control method recommended for birth control, not for some other condition.

            • Allison says:

              Yes. And that they are not interchangeable, and each woman’s experience with a particular one is specific to her.

        • John says:

          As a former GU student, I can state honestly that as far back as the 1960s, GU’s health insurance covered the prescription for ‘birth control pills’ when they were prescribed for reasons other than birth control. My then-girlfriend, also at GU, was prescribed them for extra-heavy, extra-painful periods. The university didn’t even blink.

          • Joseph says:

            You mean the leftwing media is purposely driving this wedge issue so the real issues currently facing this country and exasperated by its current administration, remain out of the public eye?

            Are you saying the working masses don’t have enough time/energy in the day to track down every claim made by media so they can become politically informed and not just spoon fed the party line?

            Well good thing the leftwing media doesn’t know this!

            Imagine what kind of damage they could do if they knew one of their golden calfs(Planned Parenthood) routinely provides FREE contraceptives and also FREE abortions. Also FREE to teenagers, underaged kids WITHOUT a need for their parents consent. All on YOUR dime.

            This isn’t about Sandra Fluke lying in her testimony or Rush using the wrong words against an opportunnist opponent. They don’t really care what he said, it’s that he said anything at all, they have been trying from day one to remove his persuasive voice. This is just icing on their cake!

            They love to destroy private citizens that lift the veil, this is their version of democracy. This is how they intend to control that which they disagree with, I never read “Rules for Radicals” yet I can only imagine the leftwing leadership follows it to a T. Prepare to be Palinized! O what’s that you say, hmm I didn’t like how you said that and what you uncovered. Prepare to be Joe the Plumberized!

  14. Steve Lear says:

    Randazza…My apologies.

  15. thornsoftristan says:

    “Of course, if Sandra Fluke was speaking “truth to power,” then she wouldn’t have lied about needing $1,000 a year for birth control. If she was telling the truth, then that means she’s getting fucked more than 1,000 times a year. I’d say that qualifies her as a “slut” if we’re using the common usage of that term, but it more likely qualifies her as a liar — so the “truth to power” shit doesn’t fly.”

    Of course, if you (and the rest of the MEN here who condescendingly seem to know the intimate details of all things Sandra Fluke) really walked a mile in Sandra & Friends’ shoes, you might be singing a different tune.

    None of you know the particulars of Fluke’s medical history: or even the details of the friend with ovarian cysts (beyond that one factoid). You just hear a number and make up shit to suit your tale-spinning. If anything, it puts you in the camp of another hyperbolic tale-spinner with an oxy-problem. Only in his case: he thrives on his lies. The more he shocks: the more he’s noticed.

    You should ask yourselves…why do YOU do it? Why even desire to be seated in the same stadium, as Limbaugh? Me? I’d need a shower.

    • Hey, dumbass, read the comments above. The GULC health plan PAYS FOR BIRTH CONTROL IF IT IS TO TREAT CYSTS. Anyone who claims that she couldn’t get it for that purpose is full of shit.

  16. JET99999 says:

    It sort of goes like this:

    “What’s the difference between a slut and a bitch”?

    “A slut fucks everyone in town, a bitch fucks everyone in town but YOU”

  17. Dude, really? That’s the shit you came up with?

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